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The best two tanks of World War II, the Panther Ausf. G. and the T-35/85.
The Panther was an engineering marvel of design, pushing the technological limit. The T-34 was more basic, less refined, but much, much cheaper.
Guess who won.
The Panther was an engineering marvel of design, pushing the technological limit. The T-34 was more basic, less refined, but much, much cheaper.
Guess who won.
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SONY
Model
DSC-W90
Shutter Speed
10/1600 second
Aperture
F/8.0
Focal Length
6 mm
ISO Speed
125
Date Taken
Nov 22, 2007, 6:40:17 PM
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We know who won. But there is still no question which one was a better vehicle - Panther. And it's horrendously expensive, unreliable and hard to repair and maintain suspension.
Is it a fair comparison though? Nope, T-34-85 was a medium tank, while Panther was called medium only by simple margin of it's 75mm caliber. Not to mention that like many german vehicles it was heavily leaning towards dedicated tank destroyer role. Better comparison would be IS-1 with 85mm cannon. And from PoV of surviving infantrymen, T-34-85 was better. Because it was there when they needed it. With it's bigger HE and higher numbers. Pity that it is nullified by complete lack of our own APC in our hands back then.
Germany lost (as fast and hard as they did irl. They would have lost regardless when blitz against USSR failed, but could have taken a few more years and several million of more people) primarily due to not being able to produce enough equipement to replace lost. In terms of menpower USSR and Germany were both equally on a brink of catastrophy. This is why I find the notion of "scary evil Reds capturing all of civilized western Europe if glorious UK and USA haven't stopped them" as cheap propaganda. Thanks for help, but stopping overestimating ones achievements would have been great start
However it's more of a british tradition.
And I think that your M4 also deserves a place here. While it never personally achieved the same level of a punch this two could provide and was closer to late Pz.4 and T-34-76, it was still the most comfortable one. Radios on all tanks from beginning, AA .50 HMGs, loads of variants. Jumbo, Firefly, 105mm howitzer variant. The lack of such features on early T-34-76's costed a lot of lives. Yes, we had tank destroyers and heavy tanks, but they weren't always there when needed. Having an uparmored variant similar to Jumbo in it's role ie basically being in front of tank columns, would have been saved a lot of lives. Not many, just 5-7 vehicles per 100 of usual ones produced with 122mm howitzer, extra armor and longer 85mm gun(or 100mm one), would have been a great help in some situations. Logistics would have s//cked though
Is it a fair comparison though? Nope, T-34-85 was a medium tank, while Panther was called medium only by simple margin of it's 75mm caliber. Not to mention that like many german vehicles it was heavily leaning towards dedicated tank destroyer role. Better comparison would be IS-1 with 85mm cannon. And from PoV of surviving infantrymen, T-34-85 was better. Because it was there when they needed it. With it's bigger HE and higher numbers. Pity that it is nullified by complete lack of our own APC in our hands back then.
Germany lost (as fast and hard as they did irl. They would have lost regardless when blitz against USSR failed, but could have taken a few more years and several million of more people) primarily due to not being able to produce enough equipement to replace lost. In terms of menpower USSR and Germany were both equally on a brink of catastrophy. This is why I find the notion of "scary evil Reds capturing all of civilized western Europe if glorious UK and USA haven't stopped them" as cheap propaganda. Thanks for help, but stopping overestimating ones achievements would have been great start
However it's more of a british tradition.And I think that your M4 also deserves a place here. While it never personally achieved the same level of a punch this two could provide and was closer to late Pz.4 and T-34-76, it was still the most comfortable one. Radios on all tanks from beginning, AA .50 HMGs, loads of variants. Jumbo, Firefly, 105mm howitzer variant. The lack of such features on early T-34-76's costed a lot of lives. Yes, we had tank destroyers and heavy tanks, but they weren't always there when needed. Having an uparmored variant similar to Jumbo in it's role ie basically being in front of tank columns, would have been saved a lot of lives. Not many, just 5-7 vehicles per 100 of usual ones produced with 122mm howitzer, extra armor and longer 85mm gun(or 100mm one), would have been a great help in some situations. Logistics would have s//cked though